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 Post subject: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:11 pm 
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At the town dock on annapolis and plan to move into spa creek to pick up a mooring to ride out the storm. Wind is supposed to pickup Saturday night. Will look got a place to stay on land.


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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:39 am 
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Sandy's waves collapse garage with 2 Mercedes inside in Stuart
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STUART — Hurricane Sandy’s heavy surf apparently eroded the ground under Marshall Taschman’s beach side home, collapsing the garage and leaving two Mercedes-Benz vehicles Friday in or near the ocean’s ebb and flow.

Taschman said he got the red 2013 Mercedes last week and that it cost $100,000, while the 2006 model was worth considerably less.

“It’s just wonderful living here,” Taschman quipped.

Taschman, who for nine years has lived in the yellow home on MacArthur Boulevard, said about 6 a.m. Friday he heard a “bash.” His garage had collapsed, apparently after heavy waves washed out sand underneath it.

The home, situated immediately north of the popular Bathtub Reef Beach, is perched directly on the beach. Waves lap at or near the base routinely, and for sale signs long have been posted.

“Wanna buy it?” Taschman asked.

Taschman, who is retired, said the vehicles were either in the ocean or “close to the ocean at least.”

Meanwhile, Martin County building officials condemned the home’s ground floor, said Gabriella Ferraro, county spokeswoman.

“The rest of the property is safe to inhabit, but the ground floor is considered unsafe,” she said.

A man with a tow truck walked around the garage Friday morning, apparently studying how to get the vehicles out. Taschman said the situation could have been prevented, and was critical of two county officials he claimed “believe in doing nothing.”

“Could have had rocks out in front, a sea wall out in front, never would have had this problem,” he said.

He said if he were allowed to build a sea wall, “It would be done immediately.”

In 2004, then County Administrator Russ Blackburn rejected Taschman’s request to construct a sea wall in front of his home.

Martin County officials in 2003 forced the previous owner, George Wentworth, to remove a massive rock wall he had illegally constructed on the beach.

In 2004, Taschman said, “Eventually this house is just going to fall over. I don’t think it’s falling over this year, but five years from now, 10 years from now at this rate. It can’t take it forever. The ocean is too close to the house. It needs some sort of protection.”

Taschman said Friday morning that he was “hoping” the vehicles would be salvageable.

He seemed in remarkably good spirits, given the situation.

“I guess I’m going to survive this one way or the other; how else can I look at it?”’ he said.

Skip Powell with Kauff’s Transportation Systems seemed confident mid afternoon that he could get the vehicles out.

“This is what I was doing this morning,” Powell said, holding up a photo on a cellphone of a tractor-trailer in the Fort Pierce area in a canal.

Powell said he just needed to confer with safety directors.

“If they give me the OK I don’t see why I can’t,” Powell said. “We come out here to do a job and we’ll take care of it.”

Martin County Fire Rescue officials remained at the scene in case fuel tanks on the vehicles ruptured. Officials eventually got the 2006 Mercedes out of the garage and by later in the afternoon, the red Mercedes was in the process of being removed.

Taschman said this is “way worse” than the twin hurricanes of 2004.

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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:18 am 
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roguewave1 wrote:

In 2004, Taschman said, “Eventually this house is just going to fall over. I don’t think it’s falling over this year, but five years from now, 10 years from now at this rate. It can’t take it forever. The ocean is too close to the house. It needs some sort of protection.”


So park a couple of Mercedes there eh?! :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:25 am 
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Our local weather guru Cliff Mass has a segment today on that bitch Sandy:
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/

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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:54 am 
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Saturday, October 27, 2012 01:01AM EDT - Frankenstorm Philosophy 2012
Good evening,

All eyes, ears, noses, and feet are grilled to the events which are about to unfold in the northeast as Hurricane Sandy meets up with low pressure Danny and the rest of the Grease troupe somewhere around northern New Jersey as forecast for the moment but could land anywhere from northern Virginia to southern Maine. Regardless, the effects will be so widespread this is one will be one talked about way past all of our lifetimes. Having already caused the deaths of 41 so far, it is highly likely and very unfortunate the toll will rise and damage estimates are already talking 1.5 billion dollars. In addition, this will have far reaching affects hundreds of miles inland. I really hope and pray all of those in the NE really take this seriously as historically, they usually do not.

I normally do not post what someone else writes but this time, it's pertinent, its serious, to the point, and by an expert. Please read. This is by Brian Norcross just about an hour ago and explains it way better than I ever could have:

It's one of the ugliest looking hurricanes you'll see, but Hurricane Hunters and satellite measurements confirm that its still tropical enough to be a hurricane... and its on track to cause a pile of trouble.

Two atmospheric processes are counteracting each other at the moment. Strong upper winds are trying to tear the storm apart, but a split in the upper flow is causing, essentially, a strong suction from above which is helping the storm keep going. This situation will likely result in some weakening... which would mean Sandy would drop below hurricane strength. But then the polar jet stream takes over and re-energizes the storm increasing the winds and growing the size. A sharp dip in the jet stream will pick up the reinvigorated Sandy and swing it toward the East Coast. At least that's the plan.

There are some ifs and maybes in that scenario, but the best computer forecast models independently insist that this is what's going to happen... and the not-so-reliable ones say the same thing. So, beginning immediately, it comes down to figuring out how to deal with it.

The ocean will rise along the coast as Sandy makes it's way north, but the biggest coastal problems will come when the center makes landfall. We're unlikely to know exactly where that will be until Monday, but this is critical. The ocean will be pushed toward the coast north of that point and away to the south. The onshore flow of water is exaggerated where bays, inlets, or the shape of the coastline focus the water to make it rise even higher. The most prominent problem spot is New York City, where Long Island and New Jersey make an "L".

Raritan Bay and New York Bay and the south end of Manhattan are especially susceptible to rising water if the center of Sandy comes ashore in New Jersey or south. Much as we saw in Irene, it is potentially a monstrous problem due to the threat to NYC infrastructure and transportation. There are tough decisions ahead for the Mayor and his people.

Right now, the odds favor that southern track. The threat from this situation is serious as a heart attack for anybody near the rising water.

Then there's the wind which is expected to be MUCH higher than Irene at the skyscraper level. The city will also have to be thinking about the threat to people in tall buildings.

The winds... expected to be at or near hurricane strength at landfall... will spread inland for hundreds of miles either side of the storm center. It's hard to imagine how millions of people are not going to be without power for an extended period of time.

Widespread rainfall of 3 to 7 inches with some places getting a foot or more will cause extremely dangerous flash flooding.

And then there's the snow. Heavy wet snow is forecast for the mountains of West Virginia and southwest Pennsylvania, mixed with rain at the lower elevations.

The winds will increase Sunday night in the Tidewater of Virginia and spread north through the day on Monday. The best guess right now is that the peak winds will come in overnight Monday night... near high tide and under a full, flooding moon. A triple whammy.

Let me think, what other disastrous thing might happen. It's storm overload, I know... and nobody likes to think about these kinds of things. Nothing here is certain, of course, just becoming more likely with every new piece of data. But one thing is for sure... it this all happens as forecast, and you and your family are stuck in the cold and dark without food and light and communications because you didn't run to the store and get ready... excuses are going to spectacularly hard to come by.

I have to agree!

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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:52 am 
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this is the data bouye directly east of the eye now... preasure drops too 20.00... yesturday when I was looking at Hatteras it was dropping fast
Sorry, first one is Canaveral, the eye just passed there and is now over the second and third bouyes

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41010

This is Hatteras currently:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41002

preasure is at 29.08, which may mean it is passing off to the east as we speak. The ranges of the two bouye's I choose because they appear to be the same distance from the eye, west of the eye

south hatteras:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41002

Sorry, as I was trying to put that all together, the Hatteras bouye's appear to be directly under this thing right now... few hundred miles offshore... and sorry for the lousy spelling :)


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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:46 pm 
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'91 perfect storm skipper leery of Hurricane Sandy
October 27, 2012 19:08 GMT
By ALLEN G. BREED AP National Writer
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- The skipper of the sailboat that rode out THE perfect storm 21 years ago says if he had loved ones in the path of Hurricane Sandy he'd tell them to get out.
Sandy is barreling north from the Caribbean and could hit two winter weather systems.
Skipper Ray Leonard said Saturday by telephone from Fort Myers, Fla., landlubbers should flee while they can do so calmly. He recommends a decent supply of fuel and water, a blanket and Graham crackers -- because he likes those.
People who've read the 1997 best-seller "The Perfect Storm" or watched the George Clooney movie know Leonard's story. In October 1991, he and two crew members were caught off the coast of Massachusetts in the confluence of three weather systems: the perfect storm. They were plucked from the Atlantic by a Coast Guard helicopter. Their 32-foot sailboat later washed ashore intact.


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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:50 pm 
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Well, we don't have to over dramatize the damn thing.
The chance it's going to be Perfect Storm magnitude is remote.
Rainfall of a foot is not predicted, but "possible" in some isolated areas
Storm Surge predicted even in the worst part is only 4 to 8 feet
It's no where near Cape Hatteras but 335 miles South East of Charleston SC.

So lets keep a hat on reality..... It moved due EAST in the last few hours, but will return to NE.... But the prediction to turn west is only a prediction.

The difficulty with this system is not the intensity but the broad area of tropical storm winds over 450 miles, 750 Kim's from the storm center. That's a huge area... 1,500 Kim's across.

So take precautions but talk of historical is hysterical.


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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:54 pm 
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roguewave1 wrote:
flee calmly.


That journo must write for a comedy team.


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 Post subject: Re: hurricane sandy
PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Mark wrote:
Well, we don't have to over dramatize the damn thing.
The chance it's going to be Perfect Storm magnitude is remote.
Rainfall of a foot is not predicted, but "possible" in some isolated areas
Storm Surge predicted even in the worst part is only 4 to 8 feet
It's no where near Cape Hatteras but 335 miles South East of Charleston SC.

So lets keep a hat on reality..... It moved due EAST in the last few hours, but will return to NE.... But the prediction to turn west is only a prediction.

The difficulty with this system is not the intensity but the broad area of tropical storm winds over 450 miles, 750 Kim's from the storm center. That's a huge area... 1,500 Kim's across.

So take precautions but talk of historical is hysterical.


Mark

TS Ophelia did more damage than any hurricane I have witnessed so far. It sat out there and churned for 3 days. We had had NE winds for 3 weeks before that, it was a mess. This one isn't as slow moving but here in the Carolinas it is going to be around a long time and then it is NE winds of 20-25 for 3-4 days after that. It is going to be a mess again.

You are right it doesn't compare to the Perfect Storm, err storm, but it shouldn't be discounted either. Comparing it to the perfect storm was well over the top though.


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